The exact date and place of birth are unknown. His family position and teachers place him in the later first Islamic century, but no precise birth year is securely recorded.
Muhammad ibn Umar ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib
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Son of Umar ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib and Asma bint Aqil ibn Abi Talib; not Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyya. Parent codes remain unset pending separate exact-identity registry audits.
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Burial place unknown
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Muhammad ibn Umar ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib was a Medinan Alid family member and hadith transmitter, known by the kunya Abu Abd Allah. Classical genealogical and biographical sources identify him as the son of Umar ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib and Asma bint Aqil ibn Abi Talib, clearly distinguishing him from Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyya. He transmitted from his father and from Ali Zayn al-Abidin, and his reports from his grandfather Ali are treated as mursal. He married Khadija bint Ali Zayn al-Abidin, through whom several children are recorded. His exact birth and death years and burial place are unknown.
He was alive at the beginning of the Abbasid caliphate in 132 AH. A genealogical source reports that he died aged 63, but the exact year, place and circumstances of death are unknown.
Burial is unknown. No reliable early genealogical or biographical source establishes a grave, shrine, commemorative maqam, burial city or GPS location for him.
Biography and historical profile
Muhammad was a grandson of Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib through Ali's son Umar, commonly called Umar al-Atraf. His mother was Asma bint Aqil ibn Abi Talib, joining the Umari branch with the Aqili family. This full patronymic is essential because he is not Muhammad ibn Ali ibn Abi Talib, known as Ibn al-Hanafiyya, and must also not be confused with later transmitters bearing similar names.
Ibn Sa'd's Tabaqat and Mus'ab al-Zubayri's Nasab Quraysh independently preserve the same parentage. A later Alid genealogical work states that the continuing line of Umar al-Atraf passed through Muhammad.
In hadith biography he is described as Abu Abd Allah, a Qurashi, Hashimi, Alid transmitter of Medina. He heard from his father Umar, his cousin Ali ibn al-Husayn Zayn al-Abidin, and reports are also associated with his uncle Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyya and other Medinan authorities. His transmission from his grandfather Ali is mursal because he did not meet him in a manner that establishes direct audition.
Ibn Sa'd says that he transmitted only a small number of reports. Later hadith summaries nevertheless preserve positive appraisals: al-Dhahabi describes him as trustworthy and Ibn Hajar as truthful, while explicitly noting the mursal nature of his reports from his grandfather. His transmitters included his sons Abd Allah, Ubayd Allah and Umar, as well as figures such as Ibn Jurayj and Muhammad ibn Ishaq.
Genealogical sources record his marriage to Khadija bint Ali Zayn al-Abidin. Nasab Quraysh names Umar, Abd Allah, Ubayd Allah and Umm Kulthum as their children. Ibn Sa'd also records a son Ja'far whose mother was Umm Hashim bint Ja'far; the reviewed wording establishes maternity but is not used here to create an additional structured spouse relationship. Through these children Muhammad became an important ancestor within the Umari Alid branch.
He was still alive at the beginning of the caliphate of Abu al-Abbas al-Saffah in 132 AH. Sirr al-Silsila al-Alawiyya reports that he died at the age of 63, but the exact year, place and circumstances of death are not securely preserved. No reliable early source identifies his grave, shrine or burial city, so burial remains unknown.
Ibn Sa'd's Tabaqat and Mus'ab al-Zubayri's Nasab Quraysh independently preserve the same parentage. A later Alid genealogical work states that the continuing line of Umar al-Atraf passed through Muhammad.
In hadith biography he is described as Abu Abd Allah, a Qurashi, Hashimi, Alid transmitter of Medina. He heard from his father Umar, his cousin Ali ibn al-Husayn Zayn al-Abidin, and reports are also associated with his uncle Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyya and other Medinan authorities. His transmission from his grandfather Ali is mursal because he did not meet him in a manner that establishes direct audition.
Ibn Sa'd says that he transmitted only a small number of reports. Later hadith summaries nevertheless preserve positive appraisals: al-Dhahabi describes him as trustworthy and Ibn Hajar as truthful, while explicitly noting the mursal nature of his reports from his grandfather. His transmitters included his sons Abd Allah, Ubayd Allah and Umar, as well as figures such as Ibn Jurayj and Muhammad ibn Ishaq.
Genealogical sources record his marriage to Khadija bint Ali Zayn al-Abidin. Nasab Quraysh names Umar, Abd Allah, Ubayd Allah and Umm Kulthum as their children. Ibn Sa'd also records a son Ja'far whose mother was Umm Hashim bint Ja'far; the reviewed wording establishes maternity but is not used here to create an additional structured spouse relationship. Through these children Muhammad became an important ancestor within the Umari Alid branch.
He was still alive at the beginning of the caliphate of Abu al-Abbas al-Saffah in 132 AH. Sirr al-Silsila al-Alawiyya reports that he died at the age of 63, but the exact year, place and circumstances of death are not securely preserved. No reliable early source identifies his grave, shrine or burial city, so burial remains unknown.
Historical importance and legacy
Muhammad's principal importance is genealogical. He carried forward the surviving line of Umar al-Atraf and linked that branch of the descendants of Ali with both the Aqili family through his mother and the Husayni family through his wife Khadija.
He also belongs to the Medinan transmission network of the later first and early second Islamic centuries. His small hadith corpus connects reports from Umar ibn Ali and Ali Zayn al-Abidin to his sons and to later hadith collectors, while the mursal status of reports from Imam Ali remains explicitly controlled.
The profile has strong registry value because several men named Muhammad ibn Umar or Muhammad ibn Ali appear in the same broad family. Preserving the exact father, mother, spouse and generation prevents confusion with Ibn al-Hanafiyya and with later Alid transmitters, without inventing unsupported birth, death or burial details.
He also belongs to the Medinan transmission network of the later first and early second Islamic centuries. His small hadith corpus connects reports from Umar ibn Ali and Ali Zayn al-Abidin to his sons and to later hadith collectors, while the mursal status of reports from Imam Ali remains explicitly controlled.
The profile has strong registry value because several men named Muhammad ibn Umar or Muhammad ibn Ali appear in the same broad family. Preserving the exact father, mother, spouse and generation prevents confusion with Ibn al-Hanafiyya and with later Alid transmitters, without inventing unsupported birth, death or burial details.
Family relationships
👪 Parents
Father
Umar ibn Ali
Confirmed
Mother
Asma bint Aqil ibn Abi Talib
Confirmed
🤝 Spouses and marriage links
Khadija bint Ali Zayn al-Abidin
Confirmed
🌱 Children
Sources
Al-Tabaqat al-Kubra | Muhammad ibn Sa'd | Vol. 5, p. 385, entry 1131 | https://ftp.shamela.ws/book/1686/1813 | exact parentage; children and their mothers; heard from his father and Ali ibn al-Husayn; few reports; alive at the beginning of Abu al-Abbas's caliphateNasab Quraysh | Mus'ab ibn Abd Allah al-Zubayri | descendants of Umar ibn Ali, displayed p. 80 | https://shamela.ws/book/2922/76 | Umar ibn Ali and Asma bint Aqil as parents; Khadija bint Ali ibn al-Husayn as wife and mother of Umar, Abd Allah, Ubayd Allah and Umm Kulthum
Tahdhib al-Kamal fi Asma al-Rijal | al-Mizzi | Muhammad ibn Umar ibn Ali biographical entry; pagination varies by edition | https://sunnah.com/narrator/7205 | kunya, Medinan identity, teachers and students, mursal narration from his grandfather, Ibn Sa'd's limited-hadith note and later narrator appraisals
Sirr al-Silsila al-Alawiyya | Sahl ibn Abd Allah al-Bukhari | Vol. 1, p. 97 | https://lib.eshia.ir/10871/1/97 | continuing line of Umar al-Atraf through Muhammad; mother Asma bint Aqil; reported death age of 63; children by Khadija
Tahdhib al-Kamal fi Asma al-Rijal | al-Mizzi | Vol. 16, p. 94, Abd Allah ibn Muhammad entry | https://www.islamweb.net/ar/library/content/1001/3841/ | corroborates Khadija bint Ali ibn al-Husayn as mother of Muhammad's children and preserves transmission through his son Abd Allah
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